the augustine bible review

SOURCE: The Catholic Comparative New Testament. A lot of Bibles get printed with very narrow margins because they’re trying to save space and save money and just be efficient. After international shipping costs, this costed me over US $60 which is over NZD $100…. 1:8). which says the Church – not the Bible – is the pillar of truth. It’s update, the NRSV used gender-neutral terminology that distorted the meaning of the original text (and has remained wildly unpopular in most circles). I’d like thicker pages, but it is nice to have a 1,200+ page book that I can easily carry with one hand and fit on a normal sized bookshelf. In reflection on St. Augustine’s experience, we have named this Catholic edition of the Bible The Augustine Bible—thus affirming that we too can turn our hearts to the Lord every time we “take and read” God’s Word. Marc, “We will have other versions of The Augustine Bible coming out in the fall. I was informed that I would need to wait until after the new year has commenced, as the department which has the pricing responsibility is “out of the office”. So below I will call out some of the positives and negatives I have discovered. Feel free to add to either list in the comments! A Bible translation is either faithful to the original writings or it is not – and that is all that matters. Yes, it is finally here. I will be (im)patiently awaiting the leather version (or even the hardcover if it’s sewn). – had until they started getting removed by publishers in the late 19th Century). In Isaiah 7:14 the RSV translated Hebrew almah as “young woman” rather than “virgin.” The NABRE followed suit and so, sadly, modern Catholic Bibles confused a lot of people. It generally received a warm response from Catholics around the world, I however, did not love this bible. There’s a New Catholic Answers Speaker In Town! The Augustine Bible features a beautiful foil-stamped slipcase and a durable matte cover to ensure that you can use and treasure this Bible for years to come. Your email address will not be published. This is far less confusing to those expecting these verses to be there than to simply leave them out (e.g., Mt. There are several mentions of the font size being too small on the publisher’s website. I emailed the Augustine Institute inquiring into when they’ll be releasing a hardcover edition. Printed in Italy, The Augustine Bible features the English Standard Version® Catholic Edition translation, which many consider to be the best available English translation of the Bible. For those who aren’t familiar Dover used to publish high quality paperback of older books. This one will only bother Catholics, but it’s not actually a bad translation. The Augustine Institute has a tendency to release projects at a high price and then lower prices. I’ve requested a reason, from Augustine Institute, to justify the price point. Maybe now some people will be interested in purchasing it? Granted, the RSV is also not free from this though it seems to be less apparent in major moments of the text and rather occurs in less notable sections. There is a bit of text ghosting as a result, but I only really noticed it in wide textless areas (like the ESV symbol above). The books of the Old Testament are placed in the traditional order with the deuterocanonicals kept in their proper genre. I would not expect the Augustine Bible to resist wear and tear much better. Here are some of the goodies. Update: That is excellent news! I have paperbacks published by Dover that have lasted 30 and 40 years, though not with daily use. Many cheaper bibles feature hardcover or imitation leather covers, a ribbon marker, and line-matching. I’m a big fan of Jeff Cavins’s fantastic Bible Timeline materials, so I was very excited to learn of Ascension Press’s release of the Great Adventure Catholic Bible which incorporated them into a single volume. The bible has no ribbon markers, so this extension of the cover can serve that purpose if needed. Seems new versions of this translation will be coming out in the fall: leather, hardcover, and another paperback. The text is not large. The slip case and the paperback cover have a gold-colored foil pattern stamped on the front, as shown below. There are minimal notes, all of the transnational as far as I can tell. However, this was an expensive academic tome, and it went out of print by the time I wanted one. I eventually settled on the RSV “Catholic Edition” (RSVCE) translation for my study Bible as well as one that was limited to the New Testament. The thread which was used to sew the signatures together will be visible deep in the groove (sometimes known as the “gutter”) between the pages. Learn how your comment data is processed. Unlike the NIV which disingenuously translates the word for “tradition” as “teaching” whenever it is presented in a positive light, the ESV (like most English Bibles) remains consistent. As noted in the previous post announcing the Augustine Bible, this is a paperback edition in a hard slip case. My Review of The Augustine Bible ESV-CE. Bible Reviews, Bible Study, Translations, and more. Augustine knew only a little Greek, and did not spontaneously refer to the Greek Bible. This is the first accessible Catholic Bible in the ESV translation. Last but not least, the ESV does not follow the practice of capitalizing pronouns of deity (those referring to God). The ESV has, for no reason I can guess other than theological bias, translated this verse as “a pillar.”. However, the definite article is missing for most of the terms in this verse – so why only add it here? The Augustine Bible uses the term “Deuterocanonical Books.” - The cover artwork is beautiful. I guess, I will probably being making a purchase in the fall. Second, the ESV numbers the Psalms following the Hebrew Masoretic text like the RSV and most modern Bible translations instead of the Greek Septuagint like the Vulgate / Douay-Rheims. It might seem “Protestanty” to change “full of grace” – but the ESV is following a long line of Bibles that do not translate the verse this way (for example – the two most popular Catholic Bibles!). and the NABRE. I’ve been reading and praying with it since, to give it a chance. When doing this test with the Augustine Bible, the thread is clearly visible. The cover felt thick and sturdy on that bible, but after a short time of looking through the bible, I managed to crease the corner of the cover. - YouTube I found Gerald Bray's review or analysis or commentary on Augustine to be helpful and edifying if somewhat long in parts. It was also a nice translation. For original video content, see my YouTube Channel We have generous margins. But we want people to live in the Bible. I remain puzzled by their choice to release a paperback at such a high starting price. First, the ESV makes the divine-messianic connection much more clear in this Psalm by adressing God and not his throne (cf. The pages are thin enough to allow moderate ghosting of text from the back of the page and the adjacent page. I like them both a lot, but mostly for the notes. (Note also that in this example another dual numbering system used as the deuterocanonical material flows into the protocanonical Aramaic-to-Hebrew transition). We want people to use their Bible to study, to pray, to read daily.”, https://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/augustine-institute-publishes-major-new-catholic-bible. (Details are given in the ESV front matter itself.). I ordered this bible when I saw that it was available (cyber week deal for preorder) as I have been waiting for a version in the United States. The hallmark of a sewn binding is that the pages are grouped together into several folded sections (known as “signatures”), and the signatures are all sewn together with thread. I suspect that heavy criticism played a role in their decision to reduce the price from $50 to $30. Unfortunately it came with the corner dented…but that’s alright. The printing is top-notch, ghosting is negligible, the imitation leather cover is decent in quality, and the study helps come from a well-known and well-loved Catholic study series. Hello Select your address Here is a photo of the beginning of the book of Daniel to illustrate the lack of book introductions: Overall, I would say this edition is passable, but not outstanding. “The good person” in Luke 6:45), but to use the gendered English word when the original language word was gendered. The Augustine Bible uses the term “Deuterocanonical Books.” - The cover artwork is beautiful. A common Catholic rejoinder is 1 Timothy 3:15 (easy to remember-  subtract 1 from 2 and 1 from 16!) There are no explanatory notes and no book introductions of any kind. The Augustine Bible comes in a sturdy slip box that matches the Bible’s cover – which is a stiff cardboard fold-over. For those interested in the actual Augustine Bible itself, I include pictures and a few comments below. It’s a simple, minimalist Bible with decent build quality and a fair price. Over all I am amazed with the quality of the translation this is certainty an improvement on the RSV and I can not wait to see it go mainstream for all English Speaking Catholics as a more commonly owned bible translation. I want to show how the text is typeset, how the (minimal, translational)  footnotes look, and what “extras” are included. He mostly used what is termed the Vetus Latina , the “Old Latin” version of Biblical texts. Yet, it is within the pricing standards of Augustine Institute. As I have continued to read and use the ESV-CE I began to notice many translation choices…small, yet a bit annoying. I leave the response to speak for itself. The Bible is medium sized (9″ x 6″ x 1 1/8″). Printed in Italy, The Augustine Bible features the English Standard Version® Catholic Edition translation, which some consider to be the best available English translation of the Bible. 5:14 – “For the whole law is fulfilled in one word. It’s a disputed text so some include it with a note that it isn’t found in some manuscripts but others simply leave it out! That was great, but we couldn’t get it in the USA. The ESV has opted to indicate it’s inclusion with italics and use a dual-numbering system to reflect placement. Looking at the sleeve I honestly thought I was getting a cloth covered hardback….. Not to happy about this being a paperback…. This volume presents the findings of eminent scholars on the Bible in Augustine's letters, in his preaching, in polemics, in the City of God, and as a source for Christian ethics, following the chronological order of Augustine's works from the mid-eighties of the fourth century to just before his death in 430. Christian theologians and apologists will be glad to see that in the ESV Isaiah 7:14 reads, “Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son.”. Still, it’s unusual to release a paperback first with no higher-quality option. It can sit open on the table unassisted from about the beginning of Exodus through the beginning of 1 Peter. The only notes are the minimal ESV translators notes. All is not perfect with the ESV. - It’s a good size at 6x9: compact enough for regular use and travel, but not too small as to be unreadable. It comes in a rigid … I agree, with the possible exception of the binding. Protestants love to trot out 2 Timothy 3:16 as proof text for their doctrine of sola scriptura – the idea that the Bible alone is the ultimate authority in matters of faith. I received a rather disappointing reply. For anyone who would like a copy of the ESV-CE, this is the only game in town for readers in the USA right now. In 2020 it was published in the US as The Augustine Bible. It was with reluctance that I put it on the shelf and began a search for a Catholic (i.e., complete) Bible. In late 2019, the Augustine Institute published the The Augustine Bible (ESV-CE). We’ll have a more affordable paperback version and a hardcover edition. While it’s not too much of an eye strain for me initially, this would not be me “desert island” Bible. So much for that! The Great Adventure Catholic Bible - Review, Citing the Summa Theologiæ of St. Thomas Aquinas. The slip case and the paperback cover have a gold-colored foil pattern stamped on the front, as shown below. Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Tumblr (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), the Bishops of India approved a Catholic edition of the ESV, proof-texting is often such a poor apologetic practice, The Great Adventure Catholic Bible – Review. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Augustine and the Bible (Bible through the Ages Book 2) at Amazon.com. For the price, I’d say the Great Adventure Catholic BIble from Ascension Press (using the RSV-2CE) is a FAR better Bible with superior features and binding in a comparable translation. As I was making my way into full communion with the Catholic Church I was also discovering the English Standard Version (ESV) study Bible which, although it was put out by Reformed scholars, had great notes. Thank you. The paperback cover is sturdy and thick, and it has a large fold-out extension which could potentially be used to mark a page. As it turns out, I didn’t have long to wait. To be fair, the definite article (English “the”) is not in the text here, and Greek does not have an indefinite article so it’s not technically wrong to add it in when helpful (cult apologists will recognize this as the same argument Jehovah’s Witnesses use for calling Jesus “a god” in John 1:1). Grant Jones posted a detailed review of this Bible on youtube. All we need to do is to recognize the Scriptures for what they are: a personal message from God, who made us and loves us. Select Your Cookie Preferences. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. A positive scholarly assessment of the ESV can be found HERE. As I was opening this article, I was lamenting that there are so few Catholic bibles with sufficient margin space. He gives advice on how to gain the necessary factual and linguistic information to approach the biblical environment and how to deal with its often so strangely figurative and obscure style of expression. Catholic Market online charge more for shipping (understandably as its shipped from the US) than the cost of the Bible itself. I’m truly happy for those who have wanted an ESVCE, but that price is ridiculous. Customer Reviews The Augustine Bible features a beautiful foil-stamped slipcase and a durable matte cover to ensure that you can use and treasure this Bible for years to come. The front pages feature the nihil obstat and imprimatur from the Conference of Catholic Bishops of India, and there is a foreword by bishop J. Susaimanickam (chairman of the Indian bishops’ Commission for Bible) and Cardinal Oswald Gracias (president of the bishops’ conference). I actually just received my copy of the Augustine institute ESV-CE. I’d like thicker pages, but it is nice to have a 1,200+ page book that I can easily carry with one hand and fit on a normal sized bookshelf. The text says what it says and people are expected to understand when the terms refer to a broader group. Deuterocanonicals. Read honest and unbiased product reviews from our users. I can say with certainty that it is sewn. If this is the new permanent price, I would be a bit upset if I purchased it at $50. I don't love this bible Released at the end of 2019, the Augustine Bible finally brings the ESV Catholic Edition to the United States. Eventually readers of the Bible have to learn how to differentiate between passages meant to be read literally and passages meant to be read figuratively, something that can challenge even the most advanced readers. Like Luke 1:28 above, some Catholics might get miffed about the ESV’s rendering of “person” into “presence” because it seems to take away from the “persona christi” role of the priest in confession. The stack of pages is simply glued together with a strip of glue on one edge. 17:21 below). Last year, I wrote a post about the new English Standard Version Catholic Edition Bible (ESV-CE) published in India. No reply as to future binding options was included. The books of the Old Testament are laid out in the traditional Catholic order, with the books of Maccabees arranged after the other historical books and before the book of Job. - The inside layout is very clean and readable. In reflection on St. Augustine’s experience, we have named this Catholic edition of the Bible The Augustine Bible—thus affirming that we too can turn our hearts to the Lord every time we “take and read” God’s Word. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp37KfaRoI4. The Augustine Bible features a beautiful foil-stamped slipcase and a durable matte cover to ensure that you can use and treasure this Bible for years to come. Overall, the level of ghosting is similar to the HarperOne NRSV Standard Bible — Catholic Edition, and I consider that edition to have too much ghosting for comfort. This is why pages are much more likely to fall out of a glued binding as it ages, compared to a sewn binding. Share this: Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window) Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window) Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window) Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window) Click to … (In case you’re wondering, it has received both the nihil obstat and imprimatur from the Conference of Catholic Bishops of India). Augustine Institute Store is having a sale, this Bible is going for $29.95 right now. A reasonably-sized book (circa 300 pages) but in only five chapters? I hesitate to comment because I am not a fan of the ESV, so I will limit my thoughts to these two: 1) Even though the Anglican Press one I reviewed earlier this year is glued, it seems to me that it is a superior choice for the price. (Although this does mean readers have to think a little harder about the Bible’s view of tradition!). This is the name used to denote old Latin translations from the Greek text, which were used in the Western world before - very slowly - what would be called the Vulgate translation by St Jerome took precedence. And with the WOF version coming this summer, I hope neither is too expensive. There are commentaries, no cross-references, no index, almost no “study helps” of any kind. It seems to be, from the photo supplied, that the binding is glued. Now, although the RSV is a kind of a universal academic standard, it is a 70 year-old translation that retains archaic formal English (e.g., “Thees and Thous”) and doesn’t read as smoothly as I would like in some places. The NABRE’s “translation” is completely unwarranted (it is an interpretative paraphrase rather than a translation). A completely “literal word-for-word” translation is an undesirable pipe dream. Most pages in the Bible look like this – simple and uncluttered. I’ve tried Amazon Uk, not available, Amazon.com do not ship to the Uk. They, then adjust as they learn from people. All we need to do is to recognize the Scriptures for what they are: a personal message from God, who made us and loves us. Deuterocanonical material included in protocanonical books is difficult to versify due to different systems which have developed over the years. The divorce “exception clause” in Matthew 19:9 is a difficult passage on any account, but the meaning of the underlying Greek term porneia is not – it means sexual immorality. Poetic passages are stylized to indicate emphasis. I found chapters 1, 2 and 4 to be the most engaging but got a little lost or overwhelmed or simply bored in the central chapter on Augustine the Teacher. I spent a lot of time considering Bibles and wrote an article on it HERE. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I ordered a copy and have some first impressions and photos to share. The slip case will help to protect the cover when not in use, but it won’t help with normal wear from reading. I think that the translation over all is good and acceptable, yet after closer consideration I believe that the RSV-2CE remains at least generally a better pick as a study bible and boasts a very similar readability. Well… I just checked the Catholic.store shop and the price has dropped by 40% to $29.95. The Bible is printed on thin, high quality Bible paper in a very readable font. Having said that, there are a lot of advantages with the ESV translation for any Christian, and for Catholics some are especially welcome. This bible should hold up to normal use reasonably well, but I would expect it to show its age more than a hardcover or leather edition. I suspect this might be the new permanent price going forward. Review of The Augustine Bible - the Catholic ESV! Printed in Italy, The Augustine Bible features the English Standard Version Catholic Edition translation, which some consider to be the best available English translation of the Bible. However, while many Christians are familiar with the broad strokes of his theology, few readers today have explored the riches of his spiritual life. The ESV is a pretty straightforward literal translation. Now this one is a real issue on both the translational and theological fronts. 1) to attempt to recoup development costs as quickly as possible in order to start new projects Not all “inclusive language” is taking a liberty with the text — in some cases the masculine English word is in fact less literal. As Jean E. mentioned in the comments, the text is not line-matched. That this ESVCE costs $50 is insane. Ironically the ESV uses some older readings that are more accurate than the RSV. The paper is pretty thin, but not terrible. Like pretty much all Bibles, it has some weaknesses. I received a reply today and they informed me that one will be released, at the earliest, in 2021. Many thanks to the readers who commented with their first impressions of the brand new Augustine Bible ESV-CE over the past two weeks. Either the hardcover or leather. Printed in Italy, The Augustine Bible features the English Standard Version® Catholic Edition translation, which some consider to be the best available English translation of the Bible. As I’ve written ELSEWHERE, Protestant Bibles often include the addition of the Catholic doxology to the Our Father (aka the “Lord’s Prayer”). Overall I am happy with The Augustine Bible. The Augustine Bible, ESV Catholic Edition The Augustine Bible features a beautiful foil-stamped slipcase and a durable matte cover to ensure that you can use and treasure this Bible for years to come. I believe they do it for two reasons: FYI – the price has dropped to $29.95 on their store. ), previous post announcing the Augustine Bible, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp37KfaRoI4, A Brief Comparison of the ESV w/Apocrypha and the ESVCE – Catholic Bible Talk, https://m.ncregister.com/daily-news/augustine-institute-publishes-major-new-catholic-bible, Review: Ignatius Pew Missal | The Catholic Man Reviews, First Look: Large Print New Catholic Bible (NCB) — Guest Post by Leighton. Though the Augustine Institute I agree needs to make a Hard Cover. The paper is pretty thin, but not terrible. We’ll have a very nice leather version. It will certainly serve the purpose to get the translation on the shelf, but the price point doesn’t match the quality. The Augustine Institute is now bringing English-speaking Catholics in North America a major new revision of the Revised Standard Version of the Bible called the English Standard Version - … I stand firmly against this edition, though, as the price point is ridiculous. When I receive a reply, I shall forward it to this group. Hi Marc: just came across this article. This Catholic Edition was reviewed in accord with the norms of Liturgiam authenticam and abides by Catholic hermeneutical principles. With none of those features available, it’s very hard to justify paying full price for this bible. Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for The Augustine Bible (ESV-CE) at Amazon.com. ESV Bible with Apocrypha (2009) Oxford University Press developed an authorized edition of the ESV with the Apocrypha included, which was published in January 2009. 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